Laughter’s the best medicine. But health care summit prompts serious discussion • Rhode Island Current

A recent episode of “South Park” featured a satirical song that portrayed America’s health care system as an endless series of forms, referrals and delays. 

Not unlike a typical workday for Dr. Howard Schulman, a primary care physician based in East Providence.

“The death of primary care in Rhode Island is a death of a thousand cuts,” Schulman told lawmakers, colleagues and health care officials at the Rhode Island Health Care Summit Tuesday morning. 

Schulman said he spends a lot of time clicking through screens, logging into patient record systems, authenticating those logins, then getting logged out automatically when he’s been logged in for more than a few minutes. Like many doctors, he still has to use a fax machine to share information with other medical offices, urgent cares, hospitals and nursing homes. 

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The summit’s invited speakers and guests offered plenty more examples of laceration: Rhode Island’s reimbursement rates are inferior to those in neighboring states. Private hospitals are operating like public ones, often at massive losses. There aren’t enough hospital beds. Children’s teeth are rotting because of lack of access to dental care. Primary care physicians are frustrated and underpaid, and medical practices are disconnected from one another. 

“At some point, every one of us will need our health care system,” said House Speaker K. Joseph Shekarchi in his opening remarks.

Yet the state’s subpar handling of a product with inevitable demand did not stop doctors and hospital leaders from cracking their own jokes.

“There’s a joke inside of medicine that the only three reasons one would practice in Rhode Island is our love of Del’s Lemonade, our love of coffee milk, or that we’re simply stupid,” Dr. Hub Brennan, an internist with a private practice in East Greenwich, told the crowd gathered in the House chamber.

“So I stress to you and I stress to my patients: I love Del’s, and I love coffee milk.”

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There are apparently so many problems it was hard to identify any singular villain during the nearly four-hour summit— which was billed as three but ran about 90 minutes longer than planned — although reimbursement rates for providers emerged as a recurring antagonist.  

“The persistent hole Rhode Island is still in with lower federal health care payments than neighboring Connecticut and Massachusetts is a persistent aggravation” said U.S. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, who gave a federal perspective on local delivery. “An aggravation of decades. And it doesn’t lend itself to an easy solution.” 

Whitehouse pointed to the All-Payer Health Equity Approaches and Development (AHEAD) initiative as one possibility — one whose application the state would need to complete by August. The AHEAD program would move participants to value-based payment, which aligns to quality of care delivered, rather than the current, widespread model of fee for service, which renders payment based on the number of services provided. 

‘Where’s the media who criticizes my office repeatedly?’

In states like Massachusetts, said John Fernandez, CEO of Rhode Island’s biggest health system Lifespan, high public payer hospitals are buoyed by millions in state funds. If Rhode Island Hospital were more like Boston Medical Center, it too might see state money in its coffers. 

That’s when Attorney General Peter Neronha rose from his chair and interrupted Fernandez.

“Mr. President, can you just say that again? Say that again,” Neronha asked. “So that everybody in this chamber and on television hears that point. It may be the most important point that we hear today, that you are trying to run a public hospital without public funding.”

When it was Neronha’s turn to speak, he gave mostly serious remarks, but they were not without a little acid humor.

“Maybe when they put an eight inch hole in my back, they took out that part that made me hold back a little bit,” Neronha said, referencing his 2023 surgery. “But as a state we can’t afford to hold back. We are on the precipice of a disaster.”

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The proposed merger and sale of Our Lady of Fatima Hospital in North Providence and Providence’s Roger Williams Medical Center has been a major concern for Neronha’s office, which is tasked with approving and soliciting public feedback on corporate mergers. Neronha identified the two hospitals as essential to the state’s health care system, even though he also called their owner — the California-based Prospect Medical Holdings — “lousy.” 

“Do you know that right now we are in Superior Court in a closed hearing, fighting to keep Roger Williams and Fatima open?” Neronha said. “The courtroom is sealed.”

“But where’s the outcry from the media — if they’re here — about why that courtroom is sealed?” Neronha continued, with a row of reporters situated in front of him on the House floor. ”Where’s the media who criticizes my office repeatedly for not being transparent when there is nothing more important than what’s going on in that courtroom?”

Neronha said he understood why the courtroom is sealed. He was more worked up about the fact that the state doesn’t generate enough revenue to help hospitals like Fatima and Roger Williams survive and “be in the black” — a financial stability that could be reinvested in the state’s health care systems. 

“I wanted to bring attention to the point that in any other state his (Fernandez’s) hospital and probably every hospital in this state would be supported by public funds,” Neronha said in his own speech later. “And what is the appetite for public funds for these hospitals? Zero.”  

Medicaid in all its complexities

A number that is far greater than zero: what the state spends on public insurance programs like Medicaid. It served about 328,000 Rhode Islanders in fiscal 2022, at a total cost of $3.8 billion, with $3.2 billion of that sum going toward member benefits. The feds paid for 65% of these costs, and the state paid the other 35%, for a total in-state expenditure of about $1.3 billion. 

Is it a waste? Martha L. Wofford, CEO of insurer Blue Cross Blue Shield Rhode Island, wasn’t so blunt but didn’t appear to be Medicaid’s #1 fan either. One reason: It costs her company money.

“We have a disproportionate share of government-funded health care in the state of Rhode Island,” Wofford said. “Commercial insurance pays twice what Medicare pays and more, much more, than what Medicaid pays.”

“What happens is that commercial insurance subsidizes care for all other people. And so, we really need that cross subsidization to make sure the health care system works and other providers can cover their costs.” 

Kristin Sousa, who runs the state’s Medicaid office, reminded the crowd why the low-income health insurance program is important, and argued for it as “the cornerstone of our health care delivery system,” one which supports a huge variety of patients and their needs but serves as “a critical source of funding” for health care providers, too. 

“I firmly believe that the Medicaid program drives the overall health care delivery system in Rhode Island,” Sousa said. “Medicaid serves as a safety net, catching those who might otherwise fall through the cracks of our healthcare delivery system.”

States differ in how they implement Medicaid expansions and extensions, but the entire system was made possible by the Affordable Care Act, known commonly by the nickname Obamacare. Since 1965, Medicaid has served adults with disabilities, but the Obama-era changes brought health care coverage to able-bodied adults with low income and no children.    

Lifespan’s Fernandez was still concerned about the program’s cost to hospital operators like himself.

“Our Medicaid operating margin is negative $139 million,” he said in his speech. “You throw in some charity care at $32 million, that adds up to $170 million, just in those two populations. We shouldn’t have to lose money taking care of people.”

Issues lost in translation

The summit covered a number of administrative and provider perspectives. But where were patients’ thoughts and feelings? 

Primary care doctor Schulman revealed that the high cost of having an interpreter available for non-English speaking patients made him hesitate to use them. That prompted a question from Rep. Karen Alzate, a Pawtucket Democrat. 

“Do you find it difficult to want to take those patients because your office has to pay for their translation service?” Alzate asked. “So many people in my particular community don’t seek out health care for a number of reasons and then now this is creating another barrier.” 

“I think it is a disincentive,” Schulman said. “I mean, when you’re, if you’re, paying a translator $200 for like a $90 visit, you just don’t feel right…You try not to pay attention to that. But I — Yes, yeah. You’re focused on the patient all the time.”

One of the summit’s final questions came from Weayonnoh Nelson-Davies, executive director of The Economic Progress Institute, and was directed at Neronha: “What are your thoughts about universal health care?”

“I think universal health care is something worth talking about,” Neronha said. “But we’re nowhere near talking about that.”

Neronha then pivoted to address the Fatima and Roger Williams situation from a different angle: The pair of hospitals treat patients of color and people with lower incomes, but they too are victims of irresponsible finance practices. “Private equity steals the money,” Neronha said. “The hospitals go under. That’s the plan and it’s deliberate.”

Nelson-Davies was content with the summit as a starting point for conversation, even if the discussion wasn’t exactly holistic — or patient-focused.

“Most of health care is outside of the health care system,” she said. “Whether people have food to eat, whether people have living wages — that all impacts health, so you cannot have a health care conversation without understanding that other piece of it.”

Was Nelson-Davies satisfied with the attorney general’s reply about universal health care?

“Well, he said, ‘We’re not quite ready yet.’ So his response sounded like he wasn’t quite ready yet,” Nelson-Davies told Rhode Island Current. 

“We have to have a conversation about what universal health care could look like. If we don’t have that conversation, we don’t put together a plan, we’re never gonna get there,” Nelson-Davies said. “Is it a solution? Maybe not, but we’re not even having a conversation.” 

Sen. Linda Ujifusa, a Portsmouth Democrat and longtime proponent of single-payer health care, thanked Nelson-Davies after the summit for asking the question. Ujifusa told Rhode Island Current Tuesday afternoon that she was “impressed” with the summit and the overall discussion of serious health care challenges.

While the attorney general’s reply about single-payer health care couldn’t be too “nuanced” in the given time span, Ujifusa said she was hopeful that Neronha could eventually “work in that Venn diagram of overlap” between his ideas and those of single-payer advocates.

Two speakers slated to appear Tuesday were sick. Sousa said her colleague Richard Charest, who heads the state’s Executive Office of Health and Human Services, was under the weather and couldn’t attend. Senate President Dominick Ruggiero “had medical appointments today that prevented him from attending,” said Greg Paré, Senate spokesperson, in an email.

Senate Majority Leader Ryan Pearson spoke in Ruggerio’s place and concluded the summit. 

“Unfortunately, I won’t be as fired up as the general, but I’m going to do my best,” Pearson said.