The people of Indianapolis ask Aparicio about ‘Lamar to the Colts’ (almost like the Mayflower vans)

The good of us at ESPN Radio in Indianapolis requested Nestor Aparicio the professionals and cons and realities of getting Lamar Jackson observe the Irsay household to the pleasant coronary heart of the Midwest to carry a Tremendous Bowl again to Indiana.

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Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome again. WNS T examined Baltimore and Baltimore constructive reminding you ensure you set a spot on the dial for us someplace on the am dial. The preset all the time helps us on the radio. So we’re preset in Indianapolis, Indiana. I used to be invited on this week by ESPN Radio there to speak about Lamar and the chances of Lamar very similar to the Mayflower vans shifting to Indianapolis had some enjoyable with the Indianapolis hosts hoped to enlighten them they have been asking me concerning the possibilities that Lamar would wind up there. And that is what I needed to say.

ESPN Indianapolis  00:36

Midway via the eight o’clock hour jacory together with Kevin bow and Mark Dyson right here as nicely, heat begin to the morning, which is an effective factor, not essentially Sunsplash this morning, however Glad April to you, Connecticut, your nationwide champion. The opposite large story we’ve been speaking about for the final couple of weeks, despite the fact that I really feel prefer it’s type of cooled from the Indianapolis facet. So I needed the Baltimore perspective, and determined to achieve out to Nestor Aparicio, who I met a few years in the past on radio row on the Tremendous Bowl, and type of a lightning rod of Baltimore sports activities, which I really like, as a result of he’s not afraid to share his opinion on all issues. Baltimore sports activities. He joins us now on the palest liquors hotline, W NS T, is the place you possibly can hear him within the state of Maryland. Nestor, let’s start with this. Good morning, and thanks on your time. However from the Ravens standpoint, you understand, what’s the the narrative or the thought course of? Is that this all smokin? Lamar Jackson goes to finish up staying a raven? Or do you suppose they’re actively seeking to discover him a house elsewhere?

Nestor Aparicio  01:38

Effectively, I feel there’s positively bruised emotions on either side. I feel they don’t need an indignant quarterback that’s going to carry that at OTAs. I imply, hardball is the man that will get wrung up by the League for working towards an excessive amount of, you understand, breaking the foundations in that approach that he doesn’t like not having his quarterback round, he’s bought a brand new offensive coordinator. So it’s an interesting push and pull for all the pieces that occurred right here during the last 12 months, starting with the OTAs, the truth that he’s his personal agent, which is its personal nightmare that’s constructed into this. I imply, it’s one factor to be your individual agent, once you’re solely negotiating along with your staff attempting to get a deal. Once you’re attempting to pit different groups towards one another. This has been an epic failure for him to maximise his worth. And his agent has failed him as nicely. However he’s his personal agent, proper. So identical as a man who has his personal lawyer. However in the course of the season, the harm, the truth that it regarded like he made some enterprise selections in the course of the 12 months. And after the harm, the truth that the staff instructed the NFL Community instructed the media, he’ll be again at Christmas, he’ll be again for the playoffs, he’ll be again and he was actually by no means heard from once more. And when he was heard from he was heard from on social media in a really untoward approach. He went after a fan and Pennsylvania with some profane tweets after a loss. And it actually wasn’t heard from a lot till he introduced his harm and mentioned he was injured greater than they mentioned he was injured. And that is after all after he didn’t present up for the playoff recreation. And there’s two sides of that story in addition to to why he wasn’t simply waving a towel at a playoff recreation is the franchise chief. So there’s positively issues within the relationship. Can they be solved? I you understand, that’s between Lamar and the franchise at this level, I might say for for him and this final three, 4 weeks. I don’t suppose it’s the web imagine that there’d be no bidding on him. I don’t I’m unsure what Eric found out in your truthful rely just a few weeks in the past, when Eric de Costa was on the town sniffing round late evening speaking to different common managers, different possession teams, individuals saying who needs him? What’s the true worth? The place does the negotiation start? And naturally, the Maurice Smith screaming collusion, proper. So that is as thick a narrative I’ve been on the air 31 years. I imply, I’m going again to not having a soccer staff. You realize, being on the radio, your Cal Ripken, 2131, Ray Lewis, all kinds of issues. You bought two parades right here. I’ve by no means seen a narrative like this, as a result of I actually don’t know the place it’s going to finish up. I simply can’t think about he’s going to fortunately roll again into camp in August in play for $32 million. That the thought that that’s going to occur right here. It appears silly,

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crucial once you carry up enterprise selections you carry up in not displaying as much as the playoff recreation, you understand, for us on this market. When Chris Mortensen talks, it carries a bit of little bit of weight. And I say that as a result of Jim are saying in a really shut relationship. Mortensen talked about final week that amongst different issues, the contract the draft picks you’d have to surrender. There are some questions on vitamin and sleep habits on the subject of Lamar Jackson. Is that like well-known within the Baltimore space? And is that true?

Nestor Aparicio  04:44

Oh, you understand what that is? First. I’ve heard of it. Be mindful Lamar doesn’t do any interviews with anymore. The one time he kind of stepped out of the field, Rolling Stone did an interview with him that actually labored into race and politics and points. brisker however Kodak Black and it bought lower off immediately. So I’ve by no means actually heard Lamar sit and speak about something actually his background, his ideas, his hopes He’s proper. He’s not suited and he has no agent. He’s his aide, you understand, like this notion that this man was calling round together with his goofy health club two weeks in the past. Displaying vitamin we appear Umar’s that we see that he’s a child that performs video video games. He’s a child that hangs out on the web. He had this nice relationship with Hollywood Brown. He tweeted on the franchise final 12 months in the course of the draft WTS after they traded Hollywood Brown when all people within the group swears they instructed him that they have been buying and selling his buddy as a result of his buddy requested to be traded. So this has simply became kind of a nightmarish situation, I feel, for Steve shoddy, and Eric Acosta, John Arbol, that that they had this particular child that particular expertise, they haven’t been capable of negotiate with him. He hasn’t performed a soccer recreation in December or January, the final two years. He needs high of market due to what Jimmy Haslam did in Cleveland. And there’s nobody to barter with, together with his mom, who’s all the time been implicated as being, you understand, a little bit of a entrance for him. And clearly, on draft evening, you seen the photographs of him within the inexperienced swimsuit, within the inexperienced room ready, ready, ready, it’s all listening to his title referred to as when the Ravens dealt again into the primary spherical. This has turn out to be a enterprise drawback for the ravens, you understand, in a approach that, you understand, possibly Andrew Luck leaving Indianapolis in the way in which he grew to become an issue for the franchise, however Dave owns the staff. hardball seems like he has a job for all times. Eric de Costa waited 15 years to get the gig and has the gig now, these are made guys. They usually behave in each approach with the media within the city with this vanity that life will go on. I don’t know, they haven’t had an entire lot of overseas 13’s round right here, and we haven’t drafted within the high 10 a lot in 27 years. But when it comes all the way down to being held hostage for 3, 4 or 5 years, by Lamar Jackson, when no matter they find out about Lamar Jackson is greater than anyone else is aware of about Lamar Jackson. However I don’t suppose they’re of the mindset that he’s going to return again and play for what the franchise tag is. And I feel they’re now ideas are beginning to wither that there’s going to be any suitor, that if Jim Mercer will not be the man, and if Arthur Clean will not be the man, and if Steven Ross wasn’t the man, and if the Glazer brothers aren’t the blokes who, who needs to signal him who’s going to get him what he needs, which is, you understand, in extra of $200 million assured cash, and mainly, the keys to your franchise for the subsequent 4 to 6 years, relying on how you’d construction a deal the place the ensures would lie. And meantime, the ravens are negotiating with themselves, the Ravens put them on the market on this non unique franchise to say, hey, go discover your greatest deal, go discover a suitor. And it’s actually is superb. And it’s superb for the Gamers Affiliation as nicely, how shortly the suitors all dried up. I imply, to our data Lamar by no means bought on a aircraft proper. Lamar by no means flew and talked to anyone wherever. You realize, we monitor these jets and all people appears to know the place Jim mercy and the health club or a group or I’m all the time searching for the place Mike Mills and melachim spand are, by the way in which, however however I you understand, I really like Jim Irsay, by the way in which on the Baltimore man that has a relationship with him. However I imply, I don’t know why one other staff with a high 4 draft choose would need to give away a draft except they’re completely in love with Lamar Jackson. And I don’t suppose Lamar Jackson, the agent has performed to him his shopper Lamar Jackson the participant, it this has been one of many worst agenting jobs within the historical past of the Nationwide Soccer League. Once you take a look at his expertise, his MVP trophy the place he’s the place the franchise is the truth that nothing ever gotten negotiated. And now he’s sitting right here with this loopy unhealthy franchise tag factor and no suitor within the league and the the NFL Gamers Affiliation in these years saying, You’re being Kaepernick right here dude. You realize what I imply? You’re You’re you’ve been colluded towards they’re suppressing your worth and your wage primarily based on the system and the system consuming him up proper now you suppose

ESPN Indianapolis  09:26

Nestor that Nestor Aparicio is our visitor in Baltimore. He’s on the palest liquors hotline do you get the impression? I feel typically organizations are franchises. You realize, Baltimore’s, the Ravens had been an excellent franchise, you understand, they’d been aggressive just about yearly via via totally different rotations and so they seemingly once more, exterior perspective, they’ve stability, you understand, they’ve we all know who’s in cost and they’re they appear to all the time have the precise items. However after they have a dynamic expertise like Lamar Jackson doesn’t group that has had success, then out of the blue idiot itself into considering that the success is all theirs and that he’s a man that may instantly get replaced. In different phrases, hey, we’re the Baltimore Ravens, you may need been an MVP, however we’re the Baltimore Ravens. We’ll simply put one other one in there. They usually’ll be an MVP, as a result of that’s the tradition that we have now. Is {that a} harmful factor to get into? However is there an opportunity that Baltimore feels that approach? On this scenario?

Nestor Aparicio  10:25

Effectively, there are two for 2 selecting quarterbacks going again to oh eight, proper. I imply, they’ve nailed their quarterbacks with out having to suck. They haven’t needed to choose first suck for luck or no matter you guys did, proper? Like, they haven’t had that right here. As a result of Flacco was a man they traded as much as get they fell in love with him. They noticed him as a division, one quarterback who went to Pitt, and fell out of favor and did all the pieces he wanted to do with Delaware. After which he got here in and took him to the playoffs 5 years in a row. What a Tremendous Bowl. Proper? You couldn’t need to we should always have been in Indianapolis and Billy couldn’t have made the kick each outing. We in all probability would have been those there that that day, proper. So I can return to that and all of that’s Shawnee is made himself right into a billionaire. Eric de Costa has biding his time and nonetheless has Ozzie Newsome on he nonetheless has an workplace within the constructing. Are they nonetheless there? A lot, clearly nonetheless part of what they do. After which there’s John hardball who Eric de Costa was in on the hiring course of the place John Harbaugh was employed in 2008 and my associate Brian Billick was thrown out. And that’s 1616 seasons now in the past that that occurred. So that they throw out the 2 quarterbacks they traded again into the primary spherical. They hear John was speaking revolution round he’s like Fidel Castro and, and Che Guevara popping out of the revolution revolution. Now, 4 years later, they’ve had this revolution the place they will’t signal vast receivers within the free agent market, they haven’t performed an excellent job of drafting them. So placing expertise round Lamar was an issue. That they had a left sort out that was damage for a 12 months and a half. And now Lamar is a man that I feel anyone who’s watched him play, watch the fashion of soccer, he runs into linebackers. I didn’t like that. From the start. You realize who else didn’t like that? 31 different groups handed on him and mentioned, he runs into linebackers, that’s not going to be successful, a formulation for fulfillment for us that he’s going to run the ball 1215 Contact, he ran the ball 21 occasions in an NFL recreation a 12 months and a half in the past, and actually was by no means heard from once more that season. So the group constructed all the pieces round him. After which when it got here time to pay him, they begged him to take their cash the final two years and get to a market contract the place he was making 4045 $48 million a 12 months. He refused to do this, as a result of there’s by no means high of sophistication. And fairly frankly, now that we see this play out, I’m unsure he had the sophistication degree or the or the individuals round him, explaining to him what the chance reward ratio could be. That Lamar in the event you what occurs in the event you don’t play the tip of the 21 season you get injured what occurs in the event you don’t play the tip of the 22 season? And also you get injured? Who’s going to need you? Effectively possibly Jimmer say and possibly not. And, you understand, I noticed Kravitz this piece final week I had Bob on my present as nicely. I imply, we’re at a seats right here I’m in Baltimore. I’m I’m I’m Lamar Athan, now we’re fatigued. You’re on the story, proper? I imply, actually,

ESPN Indianapolis  13:17

why we referred to as you Nestor.

Nestor Aparicio  13:19

It’s six months of speaking about this. And on the finish of the day, we’re speaking about whether or not a billionaire goes to need to entrance $200 million, and the keys was franchise to a man who tweets poop emojis, you understand what I imply? Like, actually, and that’s what his agent does. And I feel that is, this has been a cautionary story for guys with out brokers, and the way the enterprise of the league actually works. And the Gamers Affiliation goes to be heard from they’re going to scream bloody homicide threw up all of this. However that is to your level, precisely what the Baltimore Ravens have managed to keep away from since Ray Lewis was in handcuffs, proper. And Jamal Lewis had some off the sector points. That they had a child die in the course of camp final 12 months. I imply, a veteran man was discovered useless in there. You realize, you possibly can Google that Jalen Ferguson. I imply, it is a franchise that had Ray Rice punch his spouse and a glass elevator after which all people, no pace, no seat it and so it was week one and it’s all on DMC. So this is a corporation that’s had issues. It’s had drama, however it by no means invitations drama. And to me, considering you’re gonna have a disgruntled quarterback play for 32 million, who’s ghosted and who’s out on the web is actually attacking the coach as he’s coming to the rostrum to sit down down on the homeowners conferences by dropping the I’ve requested for a commerce tweet. I imply, this it’s actually a conflict between the 2 of them proper now. And the one factor that may save them is Jim or say Arthur Clean. I imply, you title these guys. After which after the draft, what would possibly occur? Goals are going to draft a quarterback. I don’t suppose there’s any query about that. And whether or not it’s Stetson Bennett or whoever it might be. That’s an Not in that, that high tier, however they’re getting ready for all times after Lamar. It’s all the time I imply, Baker Mayfield mentioned that they quartered him proper. They usually tried to spend $30 million on Darius slay, to play quarterback so that they have been a bit of extra quietly lively behind closed doorways in regard to what his cap quantity represents for them to have to chop soccer gamers. They couldn’t resign Coleus Campbell they will’t resign Marcus Peters proper now due to his cap quantity. This isn’t a staff Steve shoddy, didn’t turn out to be a billionaire and horrible and and the price of didn’t acquire their vanity and this degree of respect that you’ve got for them at a city by permitting their quarterback to carry the franchise hostage, like critically. And that’s type of the place this has been for fairly a while now. And I can’t think about that the franchise goes to join six extra months. It’s main as much as the primary week soccer,

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Morrison poop emojis we’re attempting to get our daughter to not say the phrase poop proper now. So I assume I can empathize with the Ravens group a bit of bit on that entrance. All proper, Nestor final one from me. Week one, Lamar Jackson is below middle for the Baltimore Ravens or are you taking the sector? He’s some other place?

Nestor Aparicio  16:16

I did opening day on the native on line casino right here. And you understand, it’s all new betting playing. I’m not a betting man. Take heed to me is aware of that. However I really went as much as the window and mentioned, Can I wager on this? You realize, like I often because it’s value betting on? I can’t fathom the ravens are going to signal on for greater than this. I can’t fathom that. Lamar comes again together with his tail between his legs and says, Okay, I’ll simply take 130 million assured. What do you play

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on the franchise tag?

Nestor Aparicio  16:44

Man, I can’t think about he’ll. I assumed it was unhealthy enterprise for him to do it final 12 months, once you add his cash subsequent to Josh Allen’s cash made nearly $100 million lower than a man drafted within the class. And he’s the MVP, as a result of he’s performed a poor job of negotiating for himself. He performed for $25 million lower than he ought to have final 12 months. I imply, he’s already approach the other way up. And possibly no person needs him. Proper. I imply, I feel he might maintain out and I feel he won’t play and I feel the Gamers Affiliation, possibly baking up one thing that’s litigation oriented. I imply, we’re not unhappy elements. Lamar fallen, however we’re not on the finish of this. I imply, I don’t suppose something’s going to occur shortly. As a result of Jim Irsay didn’t chew proper you guys are on the cellphone with me due to that. So no person’s biting on this. So that they’re type of caught with them. And he caught with them. And I feel that that’s, that’s not good for both of them. However definitely it’s not comfy territory for the Ravens group going into the season. Feeling like who’s our quarterback

ESPN Indianapolis  17:47

Nestor remaining minute right here. I’ve bought to ask him and in the course of the 2012 Tremendous Bowl on radio row. I assumed you I wouldn’t say that you just have been the star radio row however you’re a bit of boy versus a doll was you had a small type of cute little doll above her say that you just the late barber say the proprietor of the Baltimore Colts than the Indianapolis Colts that you just I feel you took round, took them round a unique landmarks on the town and took

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photos of him with Don Shula and stuff. It’s superior.

ESPN Indianapolis  18:14

So do you continue to have the little doll? You realize,

Nestor Aparicio  18:16

I had it till final 12 months, I do enterprise with a spot referred to as Nacho Mama’s right here. You’ll be able to go Yeah, a few events. There’s a nacho mother is in Towson that and Scotty was the founder who handed away about 10 years in the past. He’s an outdated buddy of mine, outdated Baltimore Ocean Metropolis man who collected stolen Memorial Stadium stuff and natty boh stuff and Elvis stuff. It’s type of a kitschy place, and I donated it to them. He suits little bob is on the bar in Towson. Massive Bob large bar. There’s an authentic Buck micro SIG Liano is the artist who made them. He was the longtime Baltimore Solar sports activities cartoonist and pricey buddy of mine. He made a paper mache model of Bob again in 8485. A face bought punched in it Shaffers bar. It was gifted again to me when the franchise got here in. I introduced its head on it’s thick into your sq. and took it via a circle middle again in 96 when Jim Harbaugh was your quarterback so the originals in a casket as not your mother is a captain on the wall

ESPN Indianapolis  19:16

that’s painted like a Mayflower truck proper? Effectively, I’m sorry say they get the casket is painted like a Mayflower truck.

Nestor Aparicio  19:25

No, it’s just a bit black. I don’t know. It’s not like that. It was once I was there. At the very least actually? Yeah. I haven’t been to Canton in a few minutes.

ESPN Indianapolis  19:33

Acquired a Dodge Shafer quote on the facet that claims he lied and died. So like no exhausting emotions.

Nestor Aparicio  19:39

That’s That’s right. It is best to see what they did the artwork in Cleveland did. However if you wish to see the beanie Bob, it’s on the again bar at Nacho Mama’s cute and it had greenback payments popping out of it and you understand, it’s all good.

ESPN Indianapolis  19:53

Lovely, stunning.

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That’s nice stuff. Grasp bars.

ESPN Indianapolis  19:58

The three of us right here I’m the one which took the feels to win extra video games than the Diamondbacks or the A’s. And I bought a six pack of PBR driving on it. So go cute fella go birds.

Nestor Aparicio  20:07

Unhealthy issues have occurred to the birds to begin the season right here, however, you understand, we have now the most effective participant on the planet. Adley rutschman Simply ask anybody.

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Nestor love the vitality. Thanks. Respect you

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guys have an ideal week.