Did Jon Husted run for office to serve the public or enrich himself on a bank board? Today in Ohio

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Heartland Financial institution, a neighborhood financial institution within the Columbus space, has tapped Ohio Lt. Gov. Jon Husted to be a paid member of its company board.

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How uncommon is it for a statewide elected official to take a paid place on the board of administrators of a for-profit firm, like Ohio Lt. Governor Jon Husted has achieved? If all elected leaders begin doing this now, will they’ve even much less of a reference to common folks?

Two of Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson’s accusers appeared on HBO Tuesday night time to publicly talk about their allegations that Watson sexually abused them. What did they are saying?

What occurs subsequent now {that a} Cleveland Starbucks employees has voted to kind a union, becoming a member of a rising nationwide motion?

Talking of forming unions, the previous Amazon employee who was fired after working to kind a union spoke out Tuesday. What did he say?

Almost a half century after taking possession of it, The Cleveland Museum of Artwork has given up a richly adorned searching rifle. What’s the story behind the rifle, and why is the museum giving it up?

We’ve got spent a whole lot of time speaking about it, however has Cleveland Metropolis Council taking a concrete motion on truly eradicating lead paint from metropolis houses?

Is Ohio matching the just-reported enhance in alcohol- and drug-induced deaths throughout the nation throughout the first yr of the pandemic?

The place does the case stand for Cedar Level season cross house owners who say te amusement park cheated them out of refunds throughout the first yr of the pandemic?

The world is seeing provide chain issues go unabated since beginning throughout the pandemic, so how may this have an effect on Nice Lakes delivery this season?

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Chris: [00:00:00] It’s a Wednesday episode of at this time in Ohio, the information podcast dialogue from cleveland.com and the plain supplier. And if it’s Wednesday, it means Courtney Staffie is becoming a member of us. I’m Chris Quinn right here with Courtney, in addition to giant Johnston and Lisa Garvin. We’ve obtained numerous information to speak about. We’re going to dive proper in.

How uncommon is it for a statewide elected official to take a peed place on the board of administrators of a for-profit firm? Like Ohio Lieutenant governor, John Houston has achieved. If all elected leaders began doing this now, would they’ve even much less of a reference to the common folks they’re imagined to characterize?

Lisa, this simply feels so incorrect and icky I’m shocked he did it.

Lisa: It did. And as I dove into the small print of the story, I believed, oh, it’s not that dangerous. However as I dove in, I used to be like, Hmm, it seems form of dangerous as a result of there appear to be some. Of curiosity right here. Uh, Lieutenant governor, John Houston joined the board of administrators of Heartland financial institution Corp.

[00:01:00] This occurred in March, however we didn’t learn about it till final week as a result of Heartland issued a press launch after their annual assembly final week, it’s a paid place. The quantity was not disclosed, however who mentioned, we’ll should declare that in 2023 for is necessary monetary disclosure. Um, listed below are the issues that.

Look form of bizarre, you already know, Houston and his spouse, Tina purchased shares in Heartland financial institution Corp earlier this yr, earlier than he was appointed. Um, additionally, uh, let’s see, there was one thing else. Um, I’m sorry, I can’t discover it in my notes, however he, there have been undoubtedly totally different conflicts of curiosity. Oh, the Heartland financial institution CEO, Scott McComb gave $17,000 to GOP candidates since 2016, together with $5,000 to the Duane Q stead marketing campaign.

And McCombs mom served as state GOP committee particular person. So yeah, it’s, it’s trying form of.

Chris: However I feel [00:02:00] it goes deeper than that as a result of whenever you run for public workplace, the way in which he has his total life, you’re saying I’m about public service. We speak yesterday about invoice Denon, who was so particular as a result of he spent 5 a long time serving the neighborhood, not making an attempt to counterpoint himself.

Whenever you put your self up for workplace. I need to be your public servant, not, I need to use this place to get numerous more money for myself and affect within the enterprise neighborhood. It, it simply it’s massively representing. Is he, is he doing this to counterpoint himself or is he doing it as a result of he believes in service?

The opposite factor is. He’s form of a lead within the state on financial improvement proper now he’s on a financial institution board and it’s simply the factor stinks. And it’s not usually achieved. You don’t see it, but when this opens the flood gate, you already know, to anyone like Justin Bibb, then say, properly, he’s on it. I can get on boards.

After which who’s he representing the voters or enterprise [00:03:00] pursuits are, it needs to be pure. And if something, folks ought to observe the instance of invoice Dennison. Not John Houston, this, it is a smelly deal.

Lisa: Yeah, it’s. And there actually aren’t any different examples of elected state officers taking a paid company board place.

Um, however you already know, spokeswoman, Haley Carducci says it gained’t distract from his Lieutenant governor duties. And, uh, you already know, they don’t count on any battle of curiosity and so they did seek the advice of with an legal professional, however nonetheless. It doesn’t look good. After which Heartland financial institution’s connections to the state. They’re regulated by the division of commerce.

They’ll maintain money and investments owned by the state. They obtained a $22,500 grant by way of the Ohio air high quality improvement authority. So yeah, this could possibly be actually profitable for

Chris: them. Effectively, it gained’t distract from his duties. If his intention of getting elected was to counterpoint. Effectively, you already know, I imply, would he get this job if he weren’t the Lieutenant governor?

In all probability not. He’s getting it by D look, assume [00:04:00] in regards to the financial institution. Hey, we obtained the Lieutenant governor on our board. We’re the Kings of the world. It’s simply, it’s a horrible message. I can’t imagine that Mike DeWine hasn’t mentioned let’s not do this, however you already know, Mike, the wind is. Invisible for a pair years. Anyway, it’s a, it’s a foul deal.

And, and if it opens the door for lots extra of this, it’s going to breed much more cynicism within the authorities. I’m wondering if Nan Whaley will make a difficulty of this. If she runs in opposition to DeWine saying, have a look at these guys, they’re, they’re so bent on enriching themselves that they’re breaking with long-held custom in becoming a member of company board.

Lisa: Yeah, will probably be it. Effectively, we are able to definitely@theplaindealerincleveland.com make it a marketing campaign situation. And

Chris: we definitely will. You’re listening to at this time in Ohio to a Brown’s quarterback, Deshaun Watson’s accusers appeared on HBO Tuesday night time to publicly talk about their allegations that Watson sexually abused them.

Laura, they had been very graphic of their descriptions [00:05:00] and so they definitely appear to imagine.

Laura: They did completely. They usually informed the tales from their perspective saying what occurred and that mainly Deshaun Watson didn’t need to put on a towel that he repeatedly tried to maneuver their arms in direction of his groin space and the way uncomfortable and the way disgusting they felt doing this and the way scared.

Um, one among them mentioned that. After this occurred. And she or he mentioned, no, and form of backed off and ended this therapeutic massage. She mentioned, he mentioned, I do know you might have a profession to guard. And she or he took that as a risk. And also you coming from this very highly effective sports activities determine. I, yeah, it is a actually. Simply emotionally gutting factor for them to be going by way of it.

Chris: Um, on his facet, his lawyer saying there’s one lawyer that took this case, an entire bunch of attorneys took it, refused. He denies all of this. Um, and he, he did. Seem on HBO. He declined to be interviewed. Proper? Proper. However there there’s an entire [00:06:00] bunch of ladies saying very same factor. This isn’t good for the Browns.

The department simply need this to go away. It’s not going away. Uh, there are a whole lot of, of intercourse abuse victims which are paying shut consideration to this. One thing have renounced the Browns for signing. And whereas that is nonetheless on the market and we’re nonetheless ready to listen to what the NFL goes to do to him, he won’t even play this yr.

Laura: Appropriate. Precisely. And that’s what the sufferer mentioned. They mentioned, um, it appears like a J an enormous screw you that no one cares. He can run and throw, and that’s what we care about. And I feel that it’s gotta be so laborious for a sufferer to see like the entire world embracing him, like. All of his teammates on trip final week, proper.

To, I don’t even keep in mind the place, however, and also you marvel what it feels wish to be within the Brown’s group and to be a participant and be like, I’ve to work with this teammate. Do you imagine these ladies? And that’s the factor. It’s 22 tales and soul Soledad. O’Brien mentioned it’s 22 ladies telling very comparable tales and we’ve revealed Adam freeze [00:07:00] put collectively, you already know, all of them.

They learn very, very equally. They usually’re saying, you already know, it’s only one legal professional. That is the one legal professional that may take the case and he’s not getting the good thing about the doubt. He needs to be harmless till confirmed responsible. And in each deposition he offers, he’s saying, I don’t remorse my actions as a result of I did nothing incorrect.

However then there’s this query of consensual intercourse with three ladies. And it’s like, how does, uh, a therapeutic massage flip into that?

Chris: Yeah, I th the factor that’s going to occur all season lengthy is that this story. This will likely be there all, you already know, each recreation he doesn’t play. It’ll be a point out of that. Out of out as a result of he was, uh, suspended and that is going to be the story of the Browns and 2022.

Laura: Proper. And it’s not only a Cleveland story, clearly it is a large nationwide curiosity watching what occurs and the way the NFL goes to reply to it. I imply, I feel everyone’s ready to see that and it’ll have an effect on most likely all professional sports activities. Yeah. [00:08:00] And it has loads to do with their fan base. I don’t assume the Browns realized what a L what legs this story has.

They thought it might go. They

Lisa: did. I feel they completely knew that this story had legs. You’re not going to cough up $235 million. If you happen to don’t have an ice in the entire,

Laura: I don’t assume they realized how lengthy it might be occurring.

Chris: Effectively, and so they, they, in fact, they obtained them earlier than Trevor Bauer was suspended for 2 years.

And they also’ve obtained to be pondering, wait, we thought it was going to be six or eight video games, however baseball has set a precedent and you possibly can say, properly, it’s a special sport, however that’s a precedent. So

Laura: gree and $230 million in all of these draft picks. It’s like, oh, geez.

Chris: Yeah. Okay. Effectively, we’ll be speaking about this.

I assure all of it by way of the remainder of the yr. It’s at this time in Ohio. What occurs subsequent? Now {that a} Cleveland Starbucks employees has voted to kind a union becoming a member of a rising nationwide. Courtney. It [00:09:00] wasn’t an enormous vote, nevertheless it’s a Cleveland Starbucks that now could be unionized. Yeah.

Courtney: Second in Ohio, by simply an hour, proper after Columbia, a Columbus retailer voted to do the identical factor.

So subsequent up is contract negotiations. So the unions established, however they should hash out working circumstances, pay, and all that enjoyable stuff. Um, there, there are guidelines in place about, you already know, working circumstances. As soon as a union is established earlier than the contract is reached. So issues are already transferring in. It play right here at the same time as they embark upon this negotiation

Chris: course of.

In order quickly because the vote is finished, issues change, there are particular issues that should occur instantly.

Courtney: Yeah. That’s what reporter Sean McDonnell informed us in his story. So it impacts, you already know, what Starbucks can do working circumstances sensible whereas the negotiations are taking place.

Chris: Yeah, Starbucks, can’t be joyful, however this retains on calming.

Uh, it’d be fascinating to see what [00:10:00] form of contract they get that might take a very long time for them to work out although. That’s usually what an employer does. It’ll sluggish stroll. The union negotiation it’s at this time in Ohio, talking of former forming unions, a former Amazon employee who was fired after working to kind a union in his firm, spoke out Tuesday, Laura, what did he say?

Laura: Principally, he got here out fully with the story and mentioned, I wasn’t even, you already know, doing this on the DL. Like I used to be very open about making an attempt to unionize. His title is Joey dissat. Nick. He began working on the CLI to achievement heart in August, 2020. Began organizing the union in the long run of March, I imagine of 2021.

And he mentioned that, um, he was let go due to. Unionizing, which we knew bef earlier than and now he’s filed this. Uh, criticism with the nationwide labor assessment board, mainly to attempt to get his job again. Like, that’s what would occur on the finish of this, [00:11:00] in the event that they’re felon to have fired him for the incorrect

Chris: causes. W why did he communicate out?

As a result of was there some query in regards to the timing or whether or not he was public? He simply wished folks to bear in mind that, in fact I used to be being very public about forming the union and naturally, that’s why they fired. I’m not

Laura: precisely certain. Uh, Sean McDonald was simply capable of get ahold of him yesterday. And I don’t know, I don’t assume he was ever making an attempt to cover his id.

He clearly was overtly speaking about this on breaks and he obtained an inventory of 230 different staff serious about unionizing. I imply he’s fired. He’s clearly combating that, however I really feel just like the extra data there’s about this, the extra folks which are going to say, Hey, that’s incorrect, Amazon. What’s actually fascinating is he says, Amazon doesn’t need to hold its staff.

I really feel like each different enterprise is making an attempt to retain staff and do issues to maintain them joyful. They usually, in keeping with him, simply need to hold getting new staff within the door after which let go of those [00:12:00] who’ve been there longer and are incomes extra.

Chris: Wow actually? That’s the argument. They’re simply getting folks in a few years, you elevate up the wage scale.

We’ll throw you.

Laura: Yeah. I imply, that’s his argument and in Amazon, Amazon will not be reacting to that particularly. Um, I imagine they put out a press release, however, um, yeah, does that Nick mentioned supervisors had been utilizing computer systems and write-ups as a quote, modern-day whip and the write-ups had been used to hurry up staff or to eliminate them.

Chris: Wow, you’re proper. That isn’t the way in which it’s working and nearly another trade. Each different trade has been reviewing their wage buildings and altering their insurance policies. Advantages making an attempt to carry on to folks. I learn a narrative. I feel it was within the New York instances this morning that individuals who jumped jobs final yr, lots of them give up the brand new jobs inside months as a result of they’re insisting on being handled properly and really feel handled properly.

They’re saying Sianora so fascinating. Amazon’s Senate work in

Laura: that manner. Proper. And if that is all popping out, do you [00:13:00] assume you need to go work for Amazon proper now? I don’t know, however he, um, he mentioned he had additionally gained an all star award and change into a coach. So this man was, you already know, thought-about a very beneficial worker.

All proper.

Chris: Effectively, we’ll hold monitor of this one too. You’re listening to at this time. Almost a half century after taking possession of it, the Cleveland museum of artwork has given up a richly adorned searching rifle. What’s the story behind the rifle. And why is the museum giving it up? Lisa, a bit of little bit of historical past, a bit of little bit of world battle, two intrigue, a bit of little bit of

Lisa: reparations.

That is a part of a development in a museums the world over to return issues that had been looted throughout world battle two. And apparently this. Is a type of issues. It’s a nineteenth century, French searching rifle created by famend French gunsmith style web page on the Daybreak of the nineteenth century. It was within the assortment of a Polish rely, rely Krzyzewski.

He had an enormous assortment of militaria and there’s truly an 1856 {photograph} from a Warsaw [00:14:00] exhibition that exhibits this gun in. The museum determine it and show that it was a Polish battle loss. So we discovered about this trade, not from the Cleveland museum, however from the Polish ministry of tradition and pure heritage, they launched a press launch on Might sixteenth.

Uh, the museum has not mentioned something about it, however they’ve a behavior of returning issues which have been confirmed to be stolen or alluded. Um, they, over a dozen objects from the museum’s assortment has been returned since 2009.

Chris: You simply marvel what share of the fabric in American museums was obtained in shady methods and you already know, just about, you already know, is each Egyptian artifact, ought to all of it be returned to Egypt as a result of Egypt wasn’t promoting it.

I simply really feel like that is going to change into. Uh, a a lot larger development in the long run and there’ll be fewer artifacts to be taking a look at in American museums. And

Lisa: to be honest, you already know, the museum didn’t know this gun. They didn’t [00:15:00] know the Windfall of this gun. You already know, they, they took it innocently again in 1966. I don’t assume it’s been on show even for fairly some time.

So a whole lot of these, it’s not just like the museum is knowingly taking, you already know, alluded artifacts, nevertheless it looks like, such as you mentioned, a whole lot of the sanctioned historical past most likely was looted at

Chris: some level. However I’m wondering if the museums have a accountability now to return and try to work out the provenance of every of their artifacts.

You’re proper. The museum didn’t knowingly take stolen looted items, however. What number of different issues of their possession they’ve the place they don’t know the provenance, and in the event that they begin to examine it, they could discover that they shouldn’t have possession. Fascinating story. I, and so they’re doing the fitting factor.

Uh, it’s fascinating how lengthy it has taken to repeat repatriate that rifle it’s been 80 years roughly, proper? Yeah. Okay. Take a look at that story. It’s an excellent one. It’s on cleveland.com. You [00:16:00] are listening to at this time in Ohio. We’ve got spent a whole lot of time speaking about it, however as Cleveland metropolis council taken a concrete motion on truly eradicating lead paint from metropolis houses, Courtney, this was your story.

Courtney: Uh, properly it was initially and our new ARPA reporter Lucas to pearly truly adopted up on this this week. Um, however, however that is, um, on Monday night time, council voted to handle. 17 million from the town’s allocation of federal help to place it in direction of led remediation, making houses, sled protected. Now this comes on prime of a previous 5 million that council put down, however it is a important, considerably bigger chunk of cash that, that council’s placing down right here and this contribution.

Brings the lead protected dwelling discover to $115 million. And it actually offers the orchestrators of that fund. The flexibility to usher in what they’re calling section two of constructing Cleveland led protected. So this new [00:17:00] cash goes to be additionally going to, to proprietor occupied owners. Proper now, many of the cash that’s floating on the market for.

Has been going in direction of leases. So it’s additionally going to pay for workforce improvement to coach people, to remediate lead in houses and quite a lot of, of different led associated initiatives.

Chris: So in one other life, a few years in the past, I used to be a reporter in Florida once they had been spending a ton of cash in public housing, on lead remediation, and it turned out.

The little bit of fraud that, that a whole lot of charlatan corporations stepped in didn’t actually do good high quality work and the cash was squandered. What sort of controls do you assume Cleveland metropolis council will put in to make it possible for this cash is spent successfully?

Courtney: Effectively, you already know, I feel these on metropolis council would level to this coalition that’s been working in contract.

A bunch of native nonprofits and massive organizations, and [00:18:00] it’s a whole lot of prime tier form of neighborhood organizations which are overseeing this. The Mount Sinai basis is form of performing, I feel, is as fiscal agent and managing the cash for this coalition. So there’s a whole lot of massive title organizations concerned.

I feel council’s assured that that working group has the instruments in place to verify. That the cash’s being spent appropriately right here, however I wouldn’t be shocked if there’s continued council oversight and dialogue of this.

Chris: Effectively, yeah. The query is who, who awards the contracts, who’re the businesses that get the contracts?

Will there be transparency about that? If the cash goes by way of the arms of the coalition, is the coalition certain by public information regulation as a result of it’s public cash or will they declare exemptions? I imply, it’s a. Day that the fund has that a lot cash. That’s a severe chunk of cash to lastly take care of the long-term well being of Cleveland’s youngsters.

Now, the rigor is required [00:19:00] to verify it’s spent proper. We’ve got an extended historical past on this area of when there’s massive blocks of cash. Not, not ensuring it’s spent the way in which it needs to be. And I suppose that’s a part of Lucas’s job as stimulus watch reporter, he’ll be following that cash. Would

Lisa: they be hiring like a lead czar?

Have they achieved? You already know, like anyone who would oversee the lead, you already know, distribution of the cash.

Chris: I feel that’s the coalition, proper? Courtney they’re there. The coalition is in impact. The LED’s are w

Lisa: the

Courtney: coalition is de facto spearheading all of this, however internally I, gosh, I’m fairly certain bibs employed a, an inner metropolis corridor LED’s are as

Chris: properly.

Okay. Effectively, we’ll be following it. I hope they spend it. Effectively it’s at this time. Is Ohio matching the simply reported enhance in alcohol and drug induced deaths throughout the nation. Through the first yr of the pandemic, Lisa we’ve talked an terrible lot in regards to the trauma that folks endure throughout the pandemic, not simply the primary yr, however just about ever [00:20:00] because it began, these numbers are fairly horrifying as an indicator of how a lot trauma there was.

Lisa: Yeah, and you may crunch these numbers a number of alternative ways. Ohio seems higher in some classes and never in others. It is a report from the belief for America’s well being and the wellbeing belief. They took a have a look at the alcohol drug deaths, alcohol deaths, drug deaths, and suicides evaluating 2019 to 2020.

So nationally. Alcohol deaths had been 27% nationwide and in 29% in Ohio. So we had extra alcohol deaths right here within the Buckeye state drug deaths nationally had been 30%. After which solely 22% in Ohio, which is fascinating as a result of we’ve all the time been form of an opioid, you already know, epicenter right here. So we had decrease drug deaths in Ohio.

The nation suicides had been down general down 3% nationally and down 9% right here in Ohio, however then they crunch the numbers a special manner. In order that they took a mixed price, [00:21:00] combining alcohol drug deaths, and suicides. Total, all of these deaths had been up 20% within the USA. It was over 186,700 deaths in 2020 in Ohio. Up solely 16%.

We had 5,300 drug deaths, 1,599, alcohol deaths and 1,644 suicides in 2020. The mixed price elevated in each state besides new arms.

Chris: It’s actually scary numbers and the true indicator of the stress of the pandemic. One other indicator appears to be the, the reside shooter conditions. You already know, we, the week in the past, final week we had the horrifying.

Uh, taking place in Buffalo or anyone goes in with a racist intent and kills 10 folks. After which yesterday we had anyone go into a college and kill the youngsters. And the FBI two days in the past launched a report that mentioned the variety of these sorts of shootings doubled in a yr doubled in a yr. They usually’re

Lisa: saying, yeah, the [00:22:00] consultants are saying that pandemic stress has led to detrimental behaviors resembling this.

And, uh, you already know, the 20, 21 figures as soon as they change into. It could possibly be even worse and fascinating in regards to the drug deaths. It effected all age teams besides 75 and older, nevertheless it was strongest in these 17 years previous and youthful and younger adults, 18 to 30.

Chris: You already know, we talked earlier than we began the recording, that there does appear to be much more language within the political sphere.

That’s about hate and violence. And also you wonder if all of that anger and hate drives among the, the indications we’re seeing with, with the ingesting and the medication and the suicide and, and all of the others. It’s, uh, it’s been a tricky time. We’ve been. What’s the impact on youngsters being raised at this time?

Have, try to have a look at that it’s at this time in Ohio. The place does the case stand for Cedar level season cross house owners who say the amusement park [00:23:00] cheated them out of refunds throughout the first yr of the pandemic, Courtney, they appear like they’ve a very good level about this, however they’re having to go to courtroom to make it.

Courtney: Yeah. So there’s two lawsuits ongoing there’s one this week. It’s going to the Ohio Supreme courtroom for oral arguments on behalf of previous holders who in the summertime of 2020 season minimize quick. They didn’t. All of the bang for his or her buck after they purchased season passes for the park. Proper? So these two lawsuits may have an effect on T 2 million cross holders throughout all of Cedar Truthful’s manufacturers that additionally consists of King’s island and 11 others.

However for this one case, we’re speaking about this week, that’s going earlier than the Ohio Supreme courtroom. You already know, relying on the end result there, it could possibly be kicked again to trial courtroom and allowed to proceed. So there’s been an appeals course of. Cedar honest attorneys are arguing. You already know, the pandemic was an unforeseeable as soon as in a lifetime occasion, they prolonged previous advantages by way of 2021.

So those that had the 2020 passes may nonetheless [00:24:00] go the next yr. However the, the plaintiffs right here say, no, you don’t give the service. You, you possibly can’t hold our cash. So it’ll be actually fascinating to see. Whether or not that is allowed to go ahead because of this week’s motion. Yeah.

Chris: I, I, it might be like when you paid for a automobile and the hurricane went by way of the automobile dealership, destroyed the automobile and the supplier says, oh, properly, you already know, hurricane got here, sorry, you don’t get the automobile.

It doesn’t work that manner. These folks paid for one thing they didn’t get. If Cedar level would have given them the selection and mentioned, look, we’ll provide you with your a refund or we’ll lengthen it by way of 2021. Okay, effective. However I simply don’t see how Cedar level doesn’t find yourself paying this again with some curiosity and perhaps some penalties.

Can I

add

Laura: that? I used to be a seasoned passholder I purchased our first ever season cross gold gold passes in 2019. And you bought them for just like the very finish of that summer season and the entire subsequent for 100 bucks. Proper. So clearly the pandemic after which they, you already know, they ship it. 2021. So I most likely obtained to [00:25:00] go seven or eight or 9 instances with my children and for 100 bucks.

And I believed it was like the perfect deal ever. However it’s important to assume Cedar level, not very many individuals would have requested for his or her a refund since you had been giving them this nice possibility of an entire nother season. So how a lot would it not have value you simply to offer that cash again as a substitute, you’re combating this large lawsuit within the Supreme courtroom.

The courtroom of public opinion. Prefer it simply doesn’t appear very good.

Chris: I do know that that’s the factor. If you happen to would have given folks the choice, I guess most of them would’ve mentioned, yeah, certain. I’ll, I’ll take it and

Laura: not given the choice, however simply if anyone emailed you and mentioned, Hey, I don’t assume that is honest. Similar to quietly on the DL, however like, okay.

Like, certain. I don’t get it. Yeah.

Chris: They, they, they botched this and, properly, we’ll see. I imply, I suppose this has occurred elsewhere within the nation, Courtney, in keeping with our story with combined outcomes. Um,

Courtney: yeah, so, so there was the same case in, in Washington state, [00:26:00] um, you already know, involving a passholder Knott’s Berry farm, that’s additionally a Cedar honest property.

And, um, you already know, final month a us district courtroom decide dominated in opposition to Cedar honest, requested, uh, for dismissal of the case. And he mentioned, Nope, let’s transfer it ahead. In order that could possibly be a sign of what’s taking place.

Chris: Okay, we’ll observe this case. It’s at this time in Ohio, the world is seeing provide chain issues go unabated.

They started throughout the pandemic. How may that have an effect on nice lakes delivery this season? We flip to our woman of the lake. Laura,

Laura: that’s truly the camp nickname that one among my campers wished to get me this quick. Um, however no, I like this story as a result of it mainly exhibits that the nice lakes are simply this.

Secure regular presence in our lives. That delivery has been extremely steady all through the pandemic. It’s truly been rising at a gentle clip and so they count on extra development throughout [00:27:00] the delivery season. And mainly we’re not seeing the identical form of congestion that they’ve seen on the coast. They’ve they actually need to enhance extra capability right here in order that we are able to get extra issues delivered to the nice lakes, however the Saint Lawrence Seaway that stretches from the Atlantic ocean.

Into the nice lakes transfer 38 million metric, tons of cargo to ports and Canada and the U S in 2021. That was a 1.6% enhance from 20, 20 season. And, uh, yeah, the, the shortage of change truly, and the shortage of issues actually made the nice lake stand out and this complete very loopy world that we’re residing in.

Yeah. I

Chris: am shocked given simply what number of provide chain issues. Preserve cropping up that it didn’t influence it. I imply, trigger stuff isn’t accessible, anyone that seeks to purchase one thing, now it’s a crapshoot as as to whether it’s going to be accessible.

Laura: Yeah. And I imply, a whole lot of that is the com is the very base stuff.

Like they’re the substances to [00:28:00] make metal or, you already know, they’re transporting wheat. They’re not transporting an entire lot of completed merchandise. Coming from Europe, they’ll, I imply, nearly all of site visitors within the nice lakes is that these Lakers that by no means go away the lakes. So I feel that has one thing to do with it, however they’ve already seen extra enterprise due to coastal port points.

And, um, they’re getting increasingly containers, that are these extra completed merchandise, as a result of in, everyone’s seen the container ships the place like the entire container comes on and off the ship and it might go on a prepare or on a semi-truck. However what we’re additionally used to seeing in Cleveland is on the. The west facet of the river, that big bulk turnable terminal, proper.

The place it’s simply the, the mixture stuff that goes to the metal mill. That’s been very regular.

Chris: Okay. Effectively, let’s hope they’ve a profitable yr. It’s good for the financial system you’re listening to at this time in Ohio and that’s it for Wednesday. Thanks, Laura. Thanks, Lisa. Thanks, Courtney. And due to everyone who listens to this podcast.[00:29:00]