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The gang goes to 'Abbott': How Quinta Brunson and Rob McElhenney made a crossover episode
There was a moment during the filming of the “Abbott Elementary” and “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” crossover episode that blew Quinta Brunson’s mind. It was the first scene where the core casts of both shows were in the same room.
“The initial moment of all of us on set just rocked me to my core,” said Brunson, star and creator of “Abbott,” in a joint interview with her “Sunny” counterpart, Rob McElhenney. “You have to understand because I’m a fan — it was crazy to see all of you in the school.”
The very idea of putting these two shows together is a somewhat crazy idea that just happens to work. “Sunny” is the profane FXX series that’s set at an Irish dive bar and has been on the air for nearly 20 years. “Abbott” is ABC’s heartwarming breakout hit about the teachers at an underfunded public school, now in its fourth season. But they are both set in Philadelphia, which gave their creators the idea to do an old fashioned crossover, the likes of which used to happen on “Happy Days” and “Laverne and Shirley.”
The first part of the event is scheduled for the midseason return of “Abbott” on Jan. 8. It finds the gang of Paddy’s Pub forced to do community service at Abbott Elementary, a logical explanation for how a bunch of criminals end up around children. It will be followed later by a “Sunny” installment featuring the “Abbott” teachers that concludes the story — the 17th season of “Sunny” recently wrapped production.
Brunson and McElhenney got on a video call with the Los Angeles Times to discuss the process of bringing it all to life.
This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.
“The initial moment of all of us on set just rocked me to my core,” said Brunson, creator and star of ABC’s “Abbott Elementary,” with “Sunny” star and creator McElhenney.
(Marcus Ubungen/Los Angeles Times)
Quinta, what was your first experience with “Sunny”?
Quinta Brunson: Even though I was from Philly, I hadn’t actually watched. I came from a very Christian background where that show just could not have been on in my house. So it wasn’t until college — my freshman year in college — and I was in a dorm with my friend Lauren, who is [the person with whom] I discovered all my oddball humor things. We were big into Adult Swim, just the things we weren’t allowed to watch at home. And she was like, “Have you ever watched ‘Always Sunny?’ ” I was like, “You know what, despite being from here, no, I haven’t.” We binged, and it was hard to binge at that time. We’d torrent — sorry — the show from a website nonstop, and I think we watched seasons, at that point, maybe like one through seven. Wait, what are you on now?
Rob McElhenney: 47.
Brunson: No, I didn’t say your age. I said what is the season count.
McElhenney: 17.
Brunson: I couldn’t stop, and I thought it was insane and amazing. It made me proud. It’s how we feel about the Four Seasons. I was like, “I cannot believe this is in my city.” There’s a Four Seasons hotel in Philly that’s incredible. Sorry, just whatever. Anyway, keep going.
McElhenney: We should shill for the Four Seasons because it’s one of the greatest hotels I’ve ever been in.
How did the crossover start to come together?
Brunson: We met at the Emmys. And Rob and the whole “Always Sunny” team had just finished doing a presentation. The theme was TV shows throughout history. They went up there, which was honestly incredible to see. I think you guys made a joke about never having won an Emmy.
McElhenney: Yeah, the premise was TV shows from the past and we were like, “But we’re in the present. Why are we here?”
Brunson: Then I won an Emmy that night, which was really, really cool. And the first people I see backstage was them, and it couldn’t have been more fitting. The first person I saw was Bradley Cooper because he FaceTimed me, and that was right before we were going to film his episode, to say congratulations. Then I run into them, and so I was just having the most Philly [night]. It was so beautiful. I think the Eagles were playing at that time. It just was really gorgeous. Never met them before. Rob and Kaitlin [Olson, who is married to McElhenney and co-stars in “Sunny,”] had told me that they watched “Abbott,” which just made my heart very warm. I think we very quickly said it: “Our shows should cross over one day.”
McElhenney: We continued the conversation at the upfronts. Then it moved quickly past just an aside or a joke, and we started pitching back ideas right there.
Janine (Quinta Brunson), left, and Dee (Kaitlin Olson) in the crossover episode. (Gilles Mingasson/Disney)
“Sunny’s” Charlie Day in one of the “Abbott” classrooms. (Gilles Mingasson/Disney)
Was it just you two initially in the pitching process?
McElhenney: It was the two of us [and we] just had a basic premise, which would allow us to make both shows and have them feel authentic because obviously they are different styles of show and two different tones. But if we told the same story through two different tones, as seen through the lens of “Abbott,” and then as seen through the lens of “Sunny,” then we could satisfy both audiences. And then because there will be, I’m sure, a lot of people who have never seen “Sunny” before, that will see “Abbott” …
Brunson: And vice versa.
McElhenney: We wanted to make sure that we were making a show that would work for both of them. Once we kind of keyed in on that, it seemed like we could make it work. Then we got the go-ahead from Disney legal, which was a very important part of the process.
And then Charlie [Day] and I went into the “Abbott” [writers’] room and spent the day there.
Brunson: What was nice was they got it and [were] just such giving creators and so willing to get into the world. It was a dream. I’d work with them any day of the week, anytime. When they left, we were like, “That was really nice. It was really fun.” It’s not the most common experience in the world.
Was it always the idea to do one episode of “Abbott” and one of “Sunny”?
McElhenney: I think that’s what we keyed in on very early. That would be the most fun because we get to play the same characters in the tone of “Abbott,” and they get to play the same characters from “Abbott” in the tone of “Sunny.” That’s what will allow us to satisfy the authenticity of each show but then also stretch and do something different.
“Abbott” is a mockumentary so how did that affect how you would play the “Sunny” characters, Rob?
McElhenney: That’s what allowed for us to still be authentic and step into the world of “Abbott” because these characters are going into a school and they’re constantly monitored by cameras, so they would put on an act. If we’re not acting the way that our “Sunny” characters would, it’s because we know we’re being filmed and we’re putting it on the show. We might not use the same language. We might not make our intentions so obvious or known. We might not be wearing our id on our sleeves. Conversely, when they came over to us, we thought it would be fun to see what their characters would be like when the bell rings and the cameras are not on them.
Brunson: Our documentary is being filmed because they’re seeking funds for their school. So you’re going to put, probably, a better version of yourself. Then there are some characters who fit the same in both worlds, like Melissa and Ava, because they’re never really putting on for the camera. I think they’ve done something so masterful, not giving anything away, just with Dee [Olson’s character]. To me, when I first read it, I was like, “This adds another layer to all of this, that if you are a fan of both shows, you are going to have the time of your life.”
Brunson: “Our documentary is being filmed because they’re seeking funds for their school. So you’re going to put, probably, a better version of yourself.” (Marcus Ubungen/Los Angeles Times)
McElhenney: “If we’re not acting the way that our ‘Sunny’ characters would, it’s because we know we’re being filmed and we’re putting it on the show.” (Marcus Ubungen/Los Angeles Times)
The idea of “Sunny” characters being even remotely near a school is somewhat horrifying. How was that part of your initial discussion?
McElhenney: I feel like we came to that within three minutes of us sitting.
Brunson: I remember we talked about bigger Philadelphia events, right? But it also was: Why are we doing this if we’re not seeing them in the school environment? That’s what really feels fun. When you actually see them lined up in our school, it’s like, “Whoa.” Our show would need volunteers. They would have to be volunteering for the reason that they’re volunteering.
How did you think about matching the different characters?
McElhenney: I wanted to be with Janelle [James, who plays principal Ava]. I said that from the very beginning. I feel like she’s one of the funniest people on television right now. No offense to Quinta.
Brunson: I feel the same way. None taken.
McElhenney: I also feel like her character fits best with what we do on “Sunny.” I think it’s also her form of comedy is my taste as well. But I just feel like she’s so unbelievably funny, and I just wanted to be in a room with her for a few days.
McElhenney said he wanted to be paired with Janelle James, who plays Ava on “Abbott.” “I feel like she’s one of the funniest people on television right now.”
(Gilles Mingasson/Disney)
Brunson: I think the other matches came pretty organically. I didn’t set out to be in scenes with Kaitlin, but when it all panned out, I was like, “Oh my God, I get to do so many scenes with Kaitlin. I think Kaitlin’s incredible. I think she’s one of the most underrated comedic actresses. I think people should talk about her every single day,” and then getting to perform with her, I’d stand by that 10 toes down now. She’s so good. But when I found out I got to be in scenes with her as Dee — I was over the moon. Once again, this is where the “Sunny” stuff comes in handy — remembering that [both characters] went to [the University of Pennsylvania] — it was stuff like that that goes, “Oh my God, this is just naturally turning into something very, very, very good.” I think the other key pairing was Charlie and Barbara, which is probably one of my favorite pairings in the world. That becomes this beating heart, which is sweet because our show does have heart.
And the fact that it still got to have it in this episode in a way that I didn’t even predict. Those scenes moved me. They did.
Did you always know that “Abbott” would air its crossover first?
McElhenney: I think just by nature of the schedule. In some ways, you look at the “Abbott” episode, and it stands on its own, and it’s so great, and it’s a fully realized story. But then when you see our episode, it feels like it’s almost like a giant setup, and then this is the punchline. But then you can watch them in either order, and they both make sense.
Dennis, played by Glenn Howerton, is elusive in the “Abbott” episode. Not to spoil anything, but will things you tease in “Abbott” come to fruition in “Sunny”?
Brunson: Dennis is the key.
McElhenney: Yes. So when you see the “Sunny” episode, you’ll realize why we did that with Dennis.
Was there anything that you were like, “We should save this for the ‘Sunny’ episode. Like ABC standards and practices isn’t going to like this, but FX will be fine with it?”
McElhenney: There’s a joke in your episode that I cannot believe is going to make the final cut. Did I see the final cut?
Brunson: You did.
McElhenney: I cannot believe that that joke was made on your show.
Brunson: I wonder which one.
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Kathy Hilton won’t be WeHo Pride’s grand marshal after backlash from community
Kathy Hilton will no longer be the grand marshal of West Hollywood’s pride parade.
The city and WeHo Pride on Wednesday released a joint statement, announcing that “The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” star would no longer serve as the Grand Marshal Icon for the 2026 WeHo Pride Parade. The event is scheduled for Sunday.
“After thoughtful discussions, the City of West Hollywood, the WeHo Pride production team, and Kathy Hilton have determined that the 2026 WeHo Pride Parade will not designate a Grand Marshal Icon honoree,” read the statement.
The decision comes less than a week after Hilton was announced. That May 28 announcement was met with swift backlash from the LGBTQ+ community and allies, who called out Hilton’s ties to President Trump and alleged MAGA-leaning politics. Critics also cited accusations that the socialite had used a homophobic slur while on a trip with other cast members of “The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,” an action she has previously denied.
In their joint statement, West Hollywood and the WeHo Pride team expressed their appreciation for “the respectful and sincere dialogue” around both the event and the “role and significance” of Pride honorees.
“The City of West Hollywood has always believed that Pride belongs to the community,” the joint statement said. “Since its earliest days, Pride has served as both a celebration and a platform for activism, visibility, resilience, and the ongoing pursuit of equality, dignity, and justice for LGBTQ+ people. … These conversations reflect the passion people have for WeHo Pride and underscore the importance of ensuring that WeHo Pride continues to honor the history, values, and diverse voices of the LGBTQ+ community.”
In a statement, Hilton expressed gratitude for being considered for grand marshal and reaffirmed her commitment to the LGBTQ+ community and causes.
“My reason for wanting to be involved in this year’s WeHo Pride weekend was simple: to celebrate, support, and share in the joy of a community that means a great deal to so many people,” Hilton said. “Pride is, and always will be, about celebrating and uplifting LGBTQ+ voices, experiences, and achievements. … My support for the community and WeHo Pride is unwavering.”
She also mentioned several queer advocacy organizations and events she has supported over the years, including GLAAD, the Elton John AIDS Foundation, the Elizabeth Taylor AIDS Foundation, Dr. Mathilde Krim, God’s Love We Deliver and Project Angel Food.
The latest Pride-related dust-up follows the abrupt cancellation of the Long Beach Pride Festival in May. The city’s Pride Parade took place as planned.
Both snafus have occurred as conservative politicians and advocates continue to attack LGBTQ+ rights and visibility nationwide. Some Republican governors have even pushed for conservative alternatives to Pride month festivities. A recent Gallup poll has found that after years of steady gains, support for marriage equality and same-sex relationships has slipped, particularly among Republicans.
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Movie Review: Travolta’s “Propeller: One-Way Night Coach” is One for the Ages — All Ages
Back in the good ol’days — the ’90s — John Travolta would love to get off the topic of “Michael,” “Pulp Fiction” or “Get Shorty” in interviews with film journalists like me and regale us with how utterly besotted he had been with his first flying experience, how that drove his passion for piloting and buying planes and airfield-adjacent luxury houses.
He didn’t even seem to mind having to move house when this or that development balked at him flying his Boeing 707 out of there on the way to locations.
Travolta would tell any journalist who asked that he was writing a kid-friendly book, “Propeller: One Way Night Coach,” based on his first flights as a child in old propeller driven airliners — cheap red-eye overnight treks with too many connections for your average jet age traveller to tolerate.
I remember picking up the book when it came out later in the ’90s — at an airport gift shop — and thinking “Well, that’s as cute as I figured.”
And now, decades later and trapped in the B-movie hell of his post “Gotti” career, Travolta’s turned that cute book into the most delightful, fanciful and colorful bon bon of a movie.
“One Way Night Coach” is a child’s fantasy of flight and flying the way it used to be — with pristine, uncrowded, futuristic airports, an early ’60s era of jets and prop planes with over-uniformed stewardesses in white gloves, the days “Back before every Joe Sweatsock could wedge himself behind a lunch tray and jet off to Raleigh-Durham,” as Sideshow Bob memorably sneered on “The Simpsons’.”
It’s a fictionalized account of Travolta’s childhood about an only child (at least two Travolta siblings have bit parts in this movie) of a never-made-it/never-will actress/single-mom (Kelly Eviston-Quinnett) who indulges her aviation-obsessed eight-year-old with a cheap cross-country overnight flight.
Little Jeff (Clark Shotwell) will revel in almost every Idlewild to Pittsburgh to Dayton to Chicago to Kansas City to Denver and Los Angeles minute. He strolls into the cockpit to meet pilots, charms the stewardesses and checks out the sleeping bunks on the TWA Lockheed Super Constellation, loving even the delays if not the Chicken Cordon Bleu he’s offered on legs of the journey that offer a meal.
And as he’s an observant child, he comments (Travolta narrates) on his 50ish mother’s vamping and posing, her choice of cigarettes (Newports) and drinks, the solo traveling men whose attention she pursues and earns.
“I was her best audience,” adult Jeff remembers of the mother who’d read him plays as bedtime stories and delusionally hopes that this trip to Los Angeles might be her “big break” even though she’s pushing 50.
“Hollywood called,” she’d explain about their overnight cheap flight arrangements to ticket agents and crew. “They told me to take the next flight!”
At every turn, Jeff meets or sees kindness — stewardesses who indulge his many questions and bump them up to first class on the mostly-empty planes, a captain who fixes his toy model of a Constellation, a mentally ill flyer who flips out but is calmed by a flight attendant who isn’t overworked and frazzled in jet-powered tin-can jammed with Joe and Jane Sweatsocks who think nothing of traveling in their pajamas.
Normally, I cringe at pictures this reliant on voice-over narration. I recoil from stars who populate their picture with Sandler etc. offspring. But “Propeller” is unfailingly sweet and never cloying.
Sure, it’s fictionalized. But if you’ve followed Travolta’s life and career, a lot of him is in this — his raptoruous engagement with flying, an indulged child who developed a taste for fine food and creature comforts, a mother who was his guiding star as an actor.
I get why there are less adoring reviews than mine floating around “Propeller.” It’s unfailingly sweet. Mom’s man-hunting is seriously dated. This TWA tale is decorated with Gershwin’s majestic “Rhapsody in Blue” — United Airlines’ signature tune. And Travolta’s been around long enough for recent generations to come up and not feel a connection to the “Saturday Night Fever/Get Shorty” star whose career has fallen off and life has been visited by too much tragedy.
But I’d hate to be seated next to anybody who doesn’t appreciate this adorable, pristine and nearly perfect aviation fantasy on any flight, much less an overnight one.
Rating: TV-PG
Cast: Clark Shotwell, Kelly Eviston-Quinnett, Ellen Travolta, Ella Beau Travolta, Olga Hoffmann and John Travolta.
Credits: Scripted and directed by John Travolta, based on his book. An Apple TV+ release.
Running time: 1:01
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After ‘Barbie’ success, Mattel looks to He-Man for another box-office lift
Three years ago, Mattel Inc. struck box-office gold — or rather, pink — with the billion-dollar success of “Barbie.”
In its first return to theaters since the female-forward phenomenon, the El Segundo toymaker is turning to the brawny He-Man for another box-office lift.
Its latest film, “Masters of the Universe,” opens this weekend, as Mattel looks to build on that previous success and continue extending its signature toy brands into the entertainment arena.
“The movie is very much in tune with culture,” said Mattel Chief Executive Ynon Kreiz. “Everything is much more contemporary relative to what was created more than 40 years ago, but it’s still very true to the origin story and to the DNA of the brand.”
The new film arrives at a pivotal time for Mattel, which is facing pressure from investors to grow its business. The maker of Hot Wheels, American Girl and Uno has recently confronted a challenging market for toys, beset by tariffs on goods produced overseas and weaker-than-expected demand for Barbie dolls and Fisher-Price preschool products.
Amid uncertainty in the toy market and the fallout from tariffs, Mattel’s net income dropped 25% to $398 million in 2025. And since the company announced disappointing holiday sales totals in February, its stock has dropped more than 30%, closing at $14.34 on Wednesday.
“Masters of the Universe” toys at Mattel headquarters in El Segundo.
(Myung J. Chun / Los Angeles Times)
The share price slide prompted investor Southeastern Asset Management to send a letter last month to Mattel leadership suggesting the toy maker should sell itself and go private. Southeastern manages about 4% of the company’s stock on behalf of its clients.
“The frustration among investors has been the fact that if you look at the business from 2021 through 2025 and even this year … the business really hasn’t grown,” said Eric Handler, a Roth Capital senior media and entertainment analyst, referring to Mattel. “This is a company that needed something fresh in the portfolio, and there’s a wide range of investments being made, of which ‘Masters of the Universe’ is one part.”
Kreiz pushed back on the idea that the company is not growing. In the fourth quarter of 2025, net sales were up 7% to $1.8 billion, though the result was not as strong as the company expected.
Mattel has spent $1.2 billion in the last three years to buy back shares, with an additional $1.5-billion share repurchase planned for the next three years.
“We’re investing in our own stock because we believe it is undervalued,” he told The Times in an interview at his office, which has floor-to-ceiling windows that give an expansive view of El Segundo. “We absolutely agree that the share price doesn’t reflect the progress that we’ve achieved over the last few years financially, operationally, our place in culture, the strength of our brands, and the continued expansion of the business. And more importantly, the potential that we have down the road.”
“Masters of the Universe” is a key variable in that equation.
Ynon Kreiz, chief executive of Mattel.
(Myung J. Chun / Los Angeles Times)
The movie, which had a budget of roughly $170 million, is expected to bring in $25 million to $35 million in the U.S. and Canada during its debut weekend. That’s a far cry from the $162-million opening haul of “Barbie,” but box-office analysts say that film captured the cultural zeitgeist in a way that’s hard to replicate.
The ‘80s-era “Masters of the Universe” is “a property that was famous with a certain group of fans, but it hasn’t had much of a pop culture presence,” said Shawn Robbins, who directs movie analytics at Fandango and founded the forecasting site Box Office Theory. The movie has notched a respectable 74% approval rating from critics on aggregator Rotten Tomatoes.
“There’s been so many callbacks to nostalgic franchises,” he said. “Some people are always on board for them, and maybe the positive reviews bring people in who were on the fence. But people are also ready for something fresh and new and exciting.”
Kreiz said he’s often asked how the company will match the success of “Barbie.”
“The answer is, we don’t need to match ‘Barbie’s’ success for movies to have a meaningful economic impact on the company,” he said. “Not every movie will be ‘Barbie.’ If we create quality content that people want to watch and create quality experiences that people are engaged with, good things happen, and these brands will resonate and will be here for years to come.”
While theatrical revenue is important, the measure of success for “Masters of the Universe” could also include its eventual reception on streaming platforms and, of course, toy sales, analysts said.
There are hundreds of products tied to the movie, from collectible action figures of Nicholas Galitzine’s He-Man and Camila Mendes’ Teela, to branded Uno decks, Legos, clothing and skateboards.
Skeletor from “Masters of the Universe.”
(Myung J. Chun / Los Angeles Times)
“For us, it’s a huge win already,” said Robbie Brenner, president of Mattel Studios and chief content officer, who also served as a producer on the film. “We have reinvigorated and relaunched this brand that has been around for decades … and done it in a way with just the best-in-class toys. Obviously that’s our bread and butter. And then to have made an epic, incredible movie … is a huge win.”
While Mattel does not yet have sales totals for its “Masters of the Universe” toys, executives said during an earnings call in late April that product sales were “growing double digits” amid strong customer demand, particularly from adults.
When Kreiz was named CEO in 2018, he saw the potential for Mattel to expand beyond toys. In an entertainment landscape dominated by known franchises and intellectual property, the former TV and media executive wanted to leverage the company’s IP in new ways to attract consumers.
Hence, Mattel has expanded into real-world experiences such as a Barbie pop-up at Coachella or a traveling Hot Wheels monster truck show. In February, the company fully acquired Mattel163 mobile game studio after buying out a stake held by Chinese tech firm NetEase. The studio has released games based on Uno, Skip-Bo and other Mattel intellectual property.
And on the film and television front, the Mattel Studios division now has 51 people — most of whom are based in El Segundo — focused on projects across platforms.
After “Masters of the Universe,” Mattel Studios plans to release a “Matchbox” streaming movie in October. The division has more than a dozen films in development that have been announced, including an American Girl movie with Paramount, Polly Pocket with Amazon MGM Studios, as well as a live-action Magic 8 Ball series from M. Night Shyamalan.
“The journey for the company was to evolve from being a toy manufacturer that was making items to become an IP company that is managing franchises,” Kreiz said. “It’s not that we’re not creating toys — it’s obviously a big part of our business — but the opportunity is to expand so much more than the physical product.”
“Masters of the Universe” was in development for years at several different studios before it was picked up by Amazon MGM.
That partnership stemmed from Mattel’s work on the “Barbie” movie with Courtenay Valenti, then president of production and development at Warner Bros. Pictures who is now head of film at Amazon MGM.
“Masters of the Universe” felt like a good property for Mattel to bet on because of its nostalgia factor and deep bench of colorful characters, from the green tiger Battle Cat to the heavily armored Ram Man and ever meme-able Skeletor, which the company hopes will attract new audiences, Brenner said.
The movie is directed by Travis Knight — chief executive of stop-motion studio Laika who also led the 2018 “Transformers” spin-off “Bumblebee” — who Brenner said “nailed” the narrative’s tone. (It didn’t hurt that Knight was already a fan of the franchise and had sported the He-Man haircut as a child.)
“It’s a property that’s kind of out there,” said Brenner, who grew up watching He-Man and his twin sister She-Ra. “It’s got all these crazy characters. But just riding that line between what is funny and kind of irreverent and then kind of heartfelt, that is a very hard thing to put in a blender and to get right.”
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