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How an empathetic new L.A. play showcases a relationship rarely seen onstage

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When Veralynn Jackson (Julanne Chidi Hill) first meets Mr. Kim (Ryun Yu) at his magnificence provide retailer, she sees a chance to take care of her daughter whereas on the job. The one situation? That Mr. Kim be permitted to name Veralynn Julie.

The primary scene of Inda Craig-Galván’s new play with East West Gamers, “The Nice Jheri Curl Debate,” displays the same second in her mom’s life. Craig-Galván says the identify caught together with her mom, Vernell; even members of the family ultimately began calling her Julie.

Now, Craig-Galván is tackling why her mom, who has since died, may’ve accepted the identify by exploring the connection between the 2 characters. “What permits a grown lady to simply accept that?” Craig-Galván asks. “To say, ‘Oh, yeah, certain. This particular person — who’s my boss — goes to provide me a distinct identify, and I’m going to be OK with that.’ That pressured me to take a look at why she would.”

Inda Craig-Galván on the stage on the David Henry Hwang Theater.

(Dania Maxwell / Los Angeles Instances)

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“The Nice Jheri Curl Debate,” which was developed by means of the East West Gamers Playwrights Group, follows Veralynn as she begins working on the Korean-owned Black magnificence provide retailer and finds herself grappling with the invention of the Jheri curl and a brand new enterprise partnership. As the 2 characters develop to grasp each other, a friendship emerges.

Craig-Galván focuses a lot of her work — her credit embrace the play “Black Tremendous Hero Magic Mama” and such TV reveals as “The Rookie” and “Methods to Get Away With Homicide” — on the experiences of Black girls. “The Nice Jheri Curl Debate” introduced a brand new problem: writing a number one character outdoors her personal race. That required collaboration, empathy and a dedication to creating the characters’ relationship.

The East West Gamers Playwrights Group requires contributors to have at the very least one distinguished Asian character of their performs. “She wasn’t certain if the group was for her,” says producing inventive director Snehal Desai. “She had by no means written an Asian character earlier than, and that’s what we needed her to do.”

Craig-Galván ultimately took on the problem, and when she introduced within the first pages of her draft — the opening scene the place Mr. Kim calls Veralynn Julie as a result of he can’t pronounce her identify — the response was rapid. Dramaturg and Playwrights Group teacher Alice Tuan says, “All of the playwrights and I had been instantly like, ‘Wow, that is one thing.’”

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What notably stood out for Tuan was the give attention to the connection between a Korean man and a Black lady, one thing that usually isn’t seen onstage.

The Playwrights Group started in 2019, not lengthy earlier than the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, the rising Black Lives Matter motion and an increase in anti-Asian hate and rhetoric within the U.S. Desai says the play carries a brand new weight of mutual help among the many communities after the occasions of the final two years.

Alice Tuan, left, Snehal Desai, Inda Craig-Galvan and Ryun Yu, who’ve all contributed to “The Nice Jheri Curl Debate,” pause on the David Henry Hwang Theater in Los Angeles.

(Dania Maxwell / Los Angeles Instances)

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5:17 p.m. Oct. 3, 2022In a earlier model of this publish, the captions stated the images pictured Scarlett Kim. The particular person pictured is Alice Tuan.

Tuan remembers that at first, Craig-Galván wrote Mr. Kim so rigorously that his character got here off as secretive. “She didn’t wish to offend, exploit, applicable — any of that,” she says. “That’s the scary factor about writing outdoors of your race, and that’s why not lots of people do it.”

Craig-Galván found that the best way into Mr. Kim’s character was by means of his inventive facet. His mop grew to become a reminder of his ardour for portray. As he mops alone within the store, the world comes alive round him with colourful lighting. It splatters and evolves because the mop turns into a large paintbrush. His love for artwork helps him join with Veralynn and her love for wig-making. Finally, he helps her ardour within the store.

“My concern as I used to be writing was to ensure Mr. Kim was a completely realized, layered human being, that I understood his grief and that hopefully, the viewers would perceive,” Craig-Galván says.

She did analysis on Korean immigrants who personal magnificence provide shops to get a greater understanding of Mr. Kim. She additionally labored with director Scarlett Kim and assistant director Jungmok Yi to make sure that the best way the 2 leads spoke with each other felt real.

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“Getting the language proper was tremendous essential and understanding all the nuances and the idioms for sure phrases getting used versus different phrases. That was so useful,” Craig-Galván says.

In the course of the play’s workshopping with East West Gamers, Ryun Yu — who performs Mr. Kim — instantly felt the empathy and respect Craig-Galván had poured into his character.

“From the primary second I learn it, I used to be like, ‘Wow, that is actually one thing particular,’” Yu says. “I used to be actually excited by the character, and I used to be amazed that Inda, who shouldn’t be Korean, might create one thing which simply felt so proper.”

Inda Craig-Galván poses for a photograph.

(Dania Maxwell / Los Angeles Instances)

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Craig-Galván paid consideration to element and was devoted from the begin to bringing to life each little bit of “The Nice Jheri Curl Debate” onstage, Kim says. Along with Craig-Galván, Kim created an area that allowed actors to reply and hearken to the textual content, letting them observe their impulses.

Throughout rehearsals, Yu says he felt that one thing didn’t totally join between his character and what was within the script, and Craig-Galván felt it too. “She’s very intuitive,” Yu says.

So that they talked and he or she shared extra delicate particulars about Mr. Kim’s backstory, and “it simply rocked my world,” Yu says. “It completely modified my view of [the play].”

Veralynn and Mr. Kim each have preconceived notions about what the opposite could also be like, Craig-Galván says. Mr. Kim immigrated to the U.S. and has realized in regards to the Black group solely by means of the media. Veralynn lives in Chicago, which is segregated on the time of the play, and has interacted with Asian residents solely in magnificence provide shops.

“I actually needed these two characters to discover that, to query it, to get a greater understanding of it in the best way you’ll if you happen to’re in a closed area with any person for eight hours a day,” Craig-Galván says.

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Ryun Yu, left, Snehal Desai, Inda Craig-Galvan and Alice Tuan all contributed to “The Nice Jheri Curl Debate.”

(Dania Maxwell / Los Angeles Instances)

Because the characters break free from the miscommunication, they discover frequent floor. Kim remembers a scene the place Mr. Kim tells Veralynn to be “extra imply” to clients. He explains that the enterprise can’t do too nicely or else the white landlords will increase the lease.

“They realized, ‘Oh, we’re each in relation to white-dominant tradition, and that frames our struggling and our existence in a means,’” Kim says.

Kim provides, “I maintain calling it a love story as a result of they begin seeing one another with love.”

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In the course of the play, the 2 characters begin to open up to one another. “It’s like an iceberg the place there’s slightly tiny bit floating above the floor, however beneath is that this entire, well-crafted, three-dimensional world,” Yu says.

Craig-Galván says “The Nice Jheri Curl Debate” brings real-life interactions to the stage with out the white gaze. “We work together with one another on daily basis, we’ve labored with one another,” she says. “I actually am all for these tales that don’t have something to do with conflicts over misunderstandings or hatred.”

She provides, “I wish to see how we construct issues, how we react to one another and find out about one another.”

‘The Nice Jheri Curl Debate’

The place: David Henry Hwang Theater, 120 Decide John Aiso St.

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When: 8 p.m. Fridays, 2 and eight p.m. Saturdays, 5 p.m. Sundays. Ends Oct. 9

Value: $25 to $65

Information: eastwestplayers.org or (213) 625-7000

Operating time: 90 minutes, no intermission

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