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Billy Porter thought he was going to be a preacher earlier than discovering musical theater as a teen and pursuing that as a substitute. And, whereas a Tony, an Emmy, and a Grammy means he positively made the fitting alternative, We would pay any sum of money to see a preacher sporting one in all his pink carpet appears.
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Peter Grosz: So we now have to ask, since we simply talked about it in our introduction of you, is that true? Had been you going to be a preacher rising up?
Yeah, I grew up within the Pentecostal church. And, you recognize, in that house, when any individual felt a particular vitality coming over you, they referred to as it the anointing. And when that occurs, it means you are going to be a preacher.
How did you’re feeling? Did you’re feeling like you can see your self as a preacher? As a result of as any individual who had a performative gene and an intuition, that should have been thrilling.
You already know? I took it on and I preached my first sermon after I was in all probability round ten or 11, and I knew instantly: NOPE
You are now a method and trend icon along with the whole lot else. Are there any issues that you have worn on the pink carpet that had been extraordinarily fashionable, but in addition extraordinarily uncomfortable? Then, throughout the award ceremony or no matter occasion that you just’re in, you are like, I will develop into some sweatpants as a result of I will sit right here for 3 hours. I can not be sitting on this, like, birdcage trying cape factor or no matter.
Yeah, it’s a must to take into consideration that and take into consideration what you are going to take off. Like, the hat that I went to the Grammys with, the one which opened and closed. Yep.
For individuals who do not know, it was this hat that kind of had this 360 diploma curtain that was motorized. And it simply opened up like a curtain in entrance of your face.
Oh, my God. It damage so dangerous that it left a mark. It like, virtually minimize me, it left an indentation, it was so heavy!
After decades creating and publishing recipes, cookbook author Joan Nathan has released what she said is likely her final book, a cookbook and memoir called “My Life in Recipes.”
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After decades creating and publishing recipes, cookbook author Joan Nathan has released what she said is likely her final book, a cookbook and memoir called “My Life in Recipes.”
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Joan Nathan has spent her life exploring in the kitchen, trying new dishes and recipes all year. But every spring, for the Passover Seder, she sticks with a menu that follows her own family’s traditions. The holiday starts tonight.
“I think Passover tells us who we are, and it tells us, this is my family sharing with other families. I get chills every year at Passover, because I realized that it started in ancient Israel. I mean, it’s in the Bible!”
Joan Nathan chops up fresh herbs for her soup and rolls matzo balls in her kitchen in Washington, D.C.
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Joan Nathan chops up fresh herbs for her soup and rolls matzo balls in her kitchen in Washington, D.C.
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Nathan has written a dozen cookbooks, documenting how food traditions evolved as Jews wandered all over the world through the centuries. Now in her 80s, her new book is her most personal work yet, excavating her own culinary history in a combination memoir and cookbook called My Life in Recipes.
“I’ve been more nervous about this book than any book… It’s sort of going into my life, you know?”
Cookbook author Joan Nathan looks through old family recipe books.
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Nathan spoke with All Things Considered in her Washington, D.C. kitchen on a late March day, while she prepped a version of a dish she’s been eating since childhood: chicken matzo ball soup. And, like many Jewish mothers and grandmothers before her, that afternoon, she fretted over whether the matzo balls would turn out the way she wanted them to. Every family has their own recipe, whether they’re light, fluffy, hard, dense.
“So my mother’s, hers were al dente,” Nathan said. “And my mother-in-law’s were very light. You know, she was straight from Poland.”
As with every immigration story, these family recipes evolved as people relocated, fleeing wars or seeking a better life for their kids. One example is a special combination Nathan adds to her own matzo balls.
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“I’d added ginger [and] nutmeg, which I knew was what my father’s family would have used in Germany,” she explained. “Ginger nutmeg was a very common condiment combination in the 19th and early 20th century.”
For Nathan, cooking matzo ball soup for Passover, or any Jewish holiday, just feels comfortable – like home.
“It’s the smell,” she said. “You just know that smell. Like my mother’s brisket, I know; like challah, I know. I love those smells. It knows that you’re at home, that there are people that care.”
Nathan pulls two loaves of challah out of the oven at her home in Washington, D.C.
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While the soup simmers, Joan walks over to the living room where boxes of letters and books are laid out. They’re some of the artifacts that she’s uncovered from her family, including handwritten recipe books in German. One from her great-grandmother dates back to 1927, written in purple ink full of recipes for desserts like kuchen and caramel pudding. Nathan’s new book is full of her letters, diary entries and parts of these family artifacts.
Nathan looks through old family recipe books including one that dates back to 1927.
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This book is also a love story. Joan Nathan writes about her courtship and marriage of 45 years to her late husband, Allan Gerson. He died just before the pandemic. She says writing this book felt almost like a form of therapy.
“It was my savior. I would just write. And I would include him in my life, you know? So it was a way of really making him part of my life. And I think it was really helpful to me. It really gave me strength.”
A photo of her family hangs in the living rooms as cookbook author Joan Nathan prepares matzo ball soup in the kitchen of her home in Washington, D.C.
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My Life in Recipes also includes anecdotes from Nathan’s prolific career, her world travels and stories of her collaborations with food luminaries that include Julia Child.
“Julia – I had her 90th birthday in this – she was sitting right here on this couch. I had a party for her. She’s somebody who just kept living,” Nathan remembered.
“And she said to me, at 90, why should I quit if I’m doing what I like to do? And she made me realize a few things: Have people that are younger around you as you get older, be positive, don’t talk about being uncomfortable or whatever. And also, to write thank-you notes to everybody.”
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One of Brittany’s latest TV obsessions has been Netflix’s Love on the Spectrum, a reality series that follows several autistic adults as they wade through the dating pool, guided by relationship coach Jennifer Cook. Brittany sits down with Jennifer to unpack how her own experience with autism informs the advice she gives.
Then, Brittany is joined by Gender Reveal podcast host Tuck Woodstock and Flyest Fables producer Morgan Givens. They discuss how the show deals with stereotypes, the problems baked into all dating shows and what it’s like to watch the show as autistic viewers.
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This episode was produced by Liam McBain, Corey Antonio Rose, and Alexis Williams. It was edited by Jessica Placzek. We had engineering from Stacey Abbott. Our executive producer is Veralyn Williams. Our VP of programming is Yolanda Sangweni.
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